Heather Sun Mar 26 22:51:17 PST 2000
I guess it's high time I gave you the answer to my riddle!
(Which, by the way, was told to me and my fellow classmates by a very interesting supply teacher in grade five - really! It's weird the things the mind remembers, like a crystal magnifying lens over one small section of 8mm...)
No, Teekay, he didn't commit suicide.
The car was a convertable.
And now, the evil laughter: He he he he (ah, screw it)-
BWA HAAAAAH HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAA HA HA HA AH AH HAAAAAA!
Welcome, Jeff. Some painfully gained advice? Sure. Hold on, I only have a pint left...
Let all of your projects be thought of as an equally important venture. Set each out (or a representation of each) like a hand of cards. Look at each carefully. Choose one. Funnel all effort and energy into that one project. Commit yourself to finishing it with a sinewy heart. If you finish it, you can cancel the agreement with family members to commit yourself to an asylum.
Best of luck. I'll honk if we pass on the long, gruelling road to authordom. Now, please excuse me while I fuel up!
Missed everyone while I languished in the brilliancy of several sunlit afternoons. My computer is near a window.
Heather
Rhoda Sun Mar 26 21:50:29 PST 2000
Teekay,
I meant the Says it all.
Rhoda rfort@arn.net Sun Mar 26 21:48:59 PST 2000
Teekay,
I sent it to you yesterday at the same time I sent it to Eddie. I thought it was so clever. However, I shall send it to you again.
Rhoda
Christi Sun Mar 26 21:31:24 PST 2000
Teekay,
I'm the worst person who ever lived at getting riddles. But here's one from The Hobbit.
A box without hinges, key, or a lid. Yet golden treasure inside is hid.
What is it?
Heather, I am clueless as can be. You have to tell us the answer! (unless Allein comes back from camp and figures it out.)
G'night
Teekay Sun Mar 26 18:40:23 PST 2000
Sorry, that last post was mine.
Sun Mar 26 18:23:49 PST 2000
Hi Everybody,
I was very excited thinking there were lots and lots of posts to read thru, but there weren't, dagnabbit.
HOWARD: Veeeeeerrrrrry clever, BUT NOT clever enough for the riddle wizz. In order for a woman to be a widow her husband must be dead, therefore Watson it stands that the man cannot marry his widows sister as he is deceased. Really, very elementary dear Watson.
As for the book. YIPEEEEEEEEE. Now I can wait by the mail box in hope. I love getting mail that is not bills or death threats.
RHODA: Your book will be sent Wednesday as I have 2 full days of work and can't get to the P.O. before closing. I have also been quite shocking and not read your chapters, I would have done it this weekend just past, but haven't been home all weekend. I hope you enjoy it and I haven't hyped it up too much. I don't think so, because on the back page reviews it says that it is unforgettable, and it's true coz I forget heaps of things, but I still remember that book and it's been years since I've read it.
CHRISTI: Same with your book, just 2 more sleeps and I will send it.
ALLIEN: I have another one for you but it's pretty long so I want to be at home to type it out.
HEATHER: Did the man commit suicide?
I am really curious about this SAYS IT ALL thingy. If anybody is feeling nice, please send me a copy of it.
I must go now as I'm at work and I have that looking over your shoulder feeling.
Jerry Ericsson jerrag@sd.cybernex.net Sun Mar 26 17:31:26 PST 2000
Jeff, if you have received your password, check out the collabrative area, then look at Strawberies and the moon. This is the place to practice finishing your products, write us a story about your favorite food, then pledge to always finish the first draft of your current project before going on to the next. It is great to have lots of ideas, I think we all have them. In fact there are nights when in the nidst of a good nights sleep, an idea creeps into my head and refuses to let go until I get up find a notebook and write down the general idea. I have lots of notes about projects, and some day when I have the time, I will go back to them, but I always try to finish my current project first.
howard htuckey@stny.rr.com Sun Mar 26 17:12:48 PST 2000
EDDIE -- No problem, I understand completely. Those viruses can be nasty things indeed! I've sent it again.
Rhoda,
Howard and Eddie,
Hi all,
Howard,
Hi Notebookers!
To everyone out there,
Just got back from the 50th aniversery celebration of my old high school best-friend's parents. Haven't seen them in probably 30 years. It was a great reunion, my old best friend (best man at our wedding 31 years ago) was there, kind of old home week. For just a few hours it was as if 30 years melted, and we were kids again. It is great to live back here in my old home town!
Ummmm -- EDDIE ---
Oh my,
Thanks for sharing that site JERRY...I checked it out and subscribed. Even found a contest open to Ontario residents though the deadline is next Friday...but maybe I'll submit to it...HEATHER that might be one for you too...
Hi Jack,
Was up surfing the web today and came across the above site, it is a magazine for writers, has a lot to offer and is free. Take a quick look.
TEEKAY -- "The Anything Box" is on its way! You should have it in a week or so.
Christi: And on the Card book, be aware that Card is hard at work on generating the movie script for Ender's Game. Over and above that Jake Lloyd, the child actor that played Anakin in Phantom Menace, has voiced an interest in playing Ender. Note the URL above. In addition, Card has done a very good book on writing science fiction. I am forgetting the name at this point, but have it around here somewhere. You might want to take a look at a writing book by one of your favorite writers. Well, I have to admit he is on my list as well.
Well, Cassandra I dont know how it is with males (:-)) but it is sure hard with females :-). But you know... life are hard!
howard- HaHa! I don't have any tattoos! You must've caught the wrong evening news... whoops, I've already said too much. :)
Now I'm off to sunny Spain
CASSANDRA -- Yeah it *could* have been anyone, but with that cute little tattoo?
Arik- Getting "hot nights" isn't the problem. It's getting "hot nights" with one decent male on a regular basis... :)
Hi there! I've been lurking, and had to post this riddle.
Teekay - The surgeon was the boy's mother. :p
I must take exception to one point made. Hot casual nights can be the very stuff that dreams are made of. They can be all that they are cracked up to be and more. I treausure all of the hot casual nights that I can recall.
ALLIEN: As a riddle expert I don't need 2 days to figure out the answers which are:
Hello everybodeeee!
EVERYONE - I got an e-mail from Rachel. She's taking a break from the notebook in order to seriously work on her writing. She may be lurking though.
RHODA: eer..I forgot. I need you to email me your address so I can post the book.
ALIEN: That question was too easy. What I really meant to ask was this:
Howdy doo all'y'all,
Oooops! That was me. But then you guessed that already.
Ochone ochone - the hurrier I do the behinder I get.
Good evening;
Cassandra, you are right... this is the sentance of the day :-). B.T.W: I dont think it is a problem for you to get a "hot night" hey?
Cassandra...that's probabaly just as well...casual hot nights aren't all their cracked up to be...so I've been told! Um yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Teekay,
Hey All!
Aw shucks, thanks guys! Who am I kidding; I'm going nowhere (and fast). And yours is an empty threat Teekay. You come here even more than I do! Tee hee.
No, I didn't shoot a S*. In fact I haven't touched a firearm in over three years. They hang on my wall, sit in the gun cabnit, lay in thier drawers, gathering dust, and mabye a little rust. Tried to sell them a couple of months ago, even took out an ad in a local paper. Had several calls, but they didn't want to pay for them, just expected me to give them away. Guess they will just rust away.
TEEKAY -- Soon
Teekay - Peacocks cannot lay eggs, because they're the males of the peafowl family. Peahens, however, can lay several at one time. :) Thought you'd trick me with that one, huh?
Trudy-
Teekay, Nunavut is the newest territory in Canada...it's in the arctic part of our huge wonderful country and is very isolated which is what makes a story about computer use kind of interesting I guess.
HOWARD: Have you sent the book yet?? I've been waiting my the mailbox all day.
Hey everyone! Another boring day at school. I stayed after for a club, but no one showed up! So, I was there for about 45 minutes talking with the teacher - but he's cool, so it's okay.
Hello all!
HEATHER: Yeeeeees?? Flurping. What is flurping?? Sounds like making rude noises. ha ha
Cassandra,
ARGGG... too much work!
thanks Martin :-). this is Today's sentance :-). but I dont know what is the most stupid... idea enyone?
Greetings all - I signed up for a writers on line course, just for the heck of it. I took this course a couple of years ago, and it was great fun. There is no cost except for a small book that accompanies the course. If you are interested, it is called fiction 2000 and is at the link above.
Rachel, you're leaving too? How come everyone's running away? Like Americo you will be missed, or (please say it's so) your poem was becuase Americo left?
Yesterdays sentence must be:
Good-bye for now
Hi again,
SASQUATCH -- Don't go away, I think we could learn something from you! Where did you come from? Where did you learn to speak and write? Please stay!
p.s. And I will be archiving in the next day or so. Things are getting large again. I have a presentation to get ready so I will not be around much until then.
Heather: The only one that is critical is The Anything Box. The rest are actually available. The link that I supplied to the Amazon site below has all of the People stories, truly wonderful ones at that. But a very nice compilation of all. The Anything Box is the only collection that is not available. Checked on several out of print sources and even they do not have access. I will, as I have time, check through my collection and see if I have it available.
ok people... I am sorry but there is no sentances today :-). sorry. I just came home from a "hot night" so the only thing I am going to do now is sleeping... good night to all of you :-)
Whoever has a scanner among us must get hold of a copy of Zenna Henderson's stories and email them to all of us notebookers! (Not for the purposes of copyright infringement, of course, and with due credits visible in the scan).
Hello again I have had to change addresses because of spam makers. There is so much strange things in spam that they want try yeti also. If humans don't like spam why do they keep doing it.
Ooops! Spelled rhythm wrong!
TEEKAY -- No genius here, just rythm and a feeling for the music in the words. Words have real music and cadence to them. They sing or shout, or whisper in a still, small voice. Their very order can make or break a sentence -- or a stanza. James Kilpatrick described it very well in his "The Writer's Art" column on 3/19. It's definitely worth reading.
HEATHER, of course you're invited to join my writer's group when it's up and running. I'm planning for it to be midmorning on a Saturday each month and it will be in a little pub in Glen Williams near where I live. Oh I do hope you join! I must get to the pub and find out if the owners mind if we descend upon them...I'm sure by noon a few writers would buy a brew to make it worth their while!
YAY!! It's time again for Allein's funnies. Those of you who are fathers will get a kick out of this one - mine sure did.
I don't know about all this adultery. You kids always want to grow up too soon. You should be enjoying your youthful years, you will have many long years to be adulterers after you grow up. Don't be in such a hurry. I was in a big rush to grow up when I was a boy. I didn't know how long I would be an adulterer and how many years I would have to wish I was young again.
I have been gone a little over a week-end, and it took me nearly an hour to catch up on all the posts.
Hi all,
Heather - I too was working on a contribution for SM** but it just didn't work out the way I wanted. Not that I thought it all bad, just wouldn't fit with the theme. I did drop it off at the Short Story workshop if anyone is interested.
JACK -- No, "The Anything Box" is a collection of Zenna's other short stories, and "Walking Aunt Daid" is one of the stories in that collection. The book you pointed to -- "Ingathering" is the one I've recommended from time to time to the group. I did one of the Amazon reviews (it's there, if you look for it) and I have two copies of "Ingathering" just to have one to loan to friends. I like it that much. It is a compilation of all her "People" stories, and is well worth the price.
Forgot to finish a thought:
my cat is now red, blushing with satiety after chewing catnip for nearly 2 hours.
ROSEMARY, What an exciting event! Great experience having those interviews I would think. I'm with you recommending everyone take part on a writer's conference...I'm not sure it should necessarily be large though. They are wonderful events for motivating; at least the one I attended was.
I am not absolutely sure if the Zenna Henderson story the Anything Box is one of the People Stories, but if it is the above link will take you to a compilation of all of her stories. These are really quite good. She drew from her experience as a teacher to touch on some very authentic issues in her exploration of aliens trapped on this planet.
Sasquatch - My relative hunted your relatives for sport, as there was at that time a large reward for the body of a big-foot, dead or alive. This to prove the existance. He used to regale us with tales of people who had been captured by your relatives, and tortured then murdered. I think he lied, but I was very young when he told these tales, and do not know for sure. Later when he was out hunting with my uncle, he met up with a striped cat who sprayed him very badly with some strange smelling chemical. He was forced to stay outside the house for three days, then as the smell disapated, he was again allowed to speak with us, when we went outdoors to see him. I do not remember if he ever came to our house again and I have not seen him since back in the early 60's. I did see his wife who is my cousin last year but her husband refused to come back to our state after the way he was treated after his meeting with the striped cat.
Hello Cassandra no that was not me it was Harry my cousin not Henry either. I told before how he liked John Lithgowe. There is something that people do not know about when the movie ended. Every one was crying so they did not see one of Jerry's relatives on one side with his gun and a humans she with her camera on the other side. Fortunately he did not shoot, and the she slipped on some wet moss or maybe something else and took a picture of the top of the tall tree where the owl sleeps. But if everyone will look at the movie they will see that it was not really Harry either because Harry does not have any zippers. It was really a humans in a fake Harry skin. If it was really Harry they all would have been holding their cute noses and gagging. He makes me do that too, and that is why we are solitary.
TRUDY - So, the problem is not starting but finishing....may I ask some questions....how far do you typically get before hitting the wall, 0-25%, 25-50%, 50-75%? And what is the usual problem (plot seems to have nowhere to go, plot has finished early, plot seems tired etc...)? Of course having never finished anything longer than short stories, Im really in no position to give advice, BUT, I beleive the ONLY rule in writing is "if it works for you, it works!", so you never know I may be able to throw out some ideas that work for you.
Hi all,
It's SPRING!
Jerry, why will your relative shoot at one of us? We do no harm to anyone and only wish to be left alone. It saddens our heart when a humans tries to take our life only to brag an a bar that he did so. And if you speak of the one I think you mean, that was not an obscene gesture. It sounds like one of my cousins who was at the place you call woodstock, and learned a sign that is supposed to indicate peace. But the first time she tried to use it, a humans shot at her, and the bullet tore off one of her fingers, so all she has left of the sign is the other finger. She still tries to use it, but I will tell her that it now appears to be something obscene. I am afraid that she will be mortified, but that is better than being obscene. Or dead.
Hey everyone. Here's a funny that found it's way to my mailbox. I think Jon will like it.
Arik --
Ok people.. I am in a trubel: I wrote a song and I dont know how to continue it... whoever will write the best continuity to this song will win an aword :-0.
Hey guys. How are ya?
Listed that site above, I was just there and it is still up and running.
Hi all,
Americo,
Well ! All this talk of adulterous goings on makes me uneasy. We yeti after all are monogamous, mating for life. Actually we smell so bad that it is a miracle that we ever do get together, and afterwards we don't care about getting together any more. So we are monogamous and solitary. Maybe you humans like the way each other smells and you go around smelling strangers and getting into trouble. But we do not do that.
JERRY -- I vaguely remember your posting the site that Teekay speaks of -- the one with the out of print books. I thought I bookmarked it, but can't find it now. Could you post it again?
Hi all,
Midnight in this part of the world!
Adultery? Hmm...best book I read about that was The Scarlet Letter. Come to think of it, that's the only book I read about it. I personally think it's wrong, but it does make for some interesting daytime talk shows.
Howard,
Correction: probable.
I'VE MADE A CAKE.
HOW ABOUT A NICE CUP OF COFFEE?
Hello all!
Americo -- I'll see if O can find another copy of "The Anything Box" to send you. It took me several months to find the copy I now have.
So I hear cigarettes and a martini are the breakfast of champions. At least that is what Kurt Vonnegut said. I think it was personal experience.
Christi,
Howard,
Amerigo - "Christ should not be associated with the God of the Bible." - Non sequitur. ('nuff said!)
Eddie: Just noticed your comment about unmetered internet access. Hip Hip Hurrah!!! Early in the existence of forwriters.com, when it was just Writer's Resources and part of Northwest Science Fiction Resources, I was in contact with someone from England that wanted to start a critique site when such things were new and Critters had not even gotten started. But, in the end, when his phone bills were reaching $500 per month he had to pull the plug or see his wife pull his plug. I could never fathom how any country could have set things up so that local calls were metered. And now, here in the states, we are fast approaching un metered long distance calling as well at least via cell phones and the internet. Take care and looking forward to your ability to be on the internet and great deal more.
Pussy - A day or so ago you mentioned Shakespear - Do you know that I won tickets to take my daughter to Brittany Spears (yes, spelling, spelling, feel free to spank me - wicked grins). Anyway, I had to call get through to the radio station. I did this. Then off the cuff I had to make up something on any topic that they selected and do it in Shakespearan style with an accent no less! I got the tickets (grins).
Okay, so I feel like an idiot...but what the heck is a doppleganger? Is it like they say, "There is a twin out there for everyone..."
Jerry,
Thank you all :-). I suggest we will give to my courner the name: "Everyday is a new sentance" ok? well Jon... I looked at your posts and I think I know the best sentance of today :-)). However everyone thank you for all the comments and let me know if you like my courner and how can I make it better :-)
Christi - Very good, loved the story in SM**. No, the other Jerry doesn't write, however when I sent him a sample of my writing, he showed himself to be quite an editor making suggestions on how I could improve and pointing out a few gramatical mistakes.
Howard and Americo,
Jerry -- Welcome back! We've missed you! And the things you've mentioned about your "doppelganger" are interesting indeed. I love to hear anecdotes such as that. Mostly, though, we hear them as relating to twins separated at birth. I think this is the first time I've heard a case like this where there is no fraternal (or familial) connection at all. Please keep us posted!
I found my doppelganger a couple of months ago, while doing a search for a cousin. He spells his name exactly like mine; (Ericsson is an unusual spelling here in the US.) We have been E-Mailing since we found each other and comparing notes. The similarities are amazing. We are both disabled police officers, with the same amount of experiance, we are the same height and nearly the same weight, we have the same eye and hair color, and both attend the same church (Lutheran). We have both been married for the same length of time. Until last year, we drove the same make and model of pickup. (I traded mine off last year.) With each E-Mail, we find more and more similarities.
Americo -- And a hug to you too! It is truly good to know that you still say friend.
Arik,
Hey, hey, Howard. I give up. I'll convert myself. I promise.
Americo -
CHRISTI: Hammocks and mint juleps???? When your husband aks you what you're thinking about are you going to be honest or are you going to say "Oh, just what to make for dinner, darling."?
Oh me oh my, I spelled write rong, no I mean wrong, write. No no I mean......Oh dear, I just hope I don't catch myself doing it.
Top of th' mornin' to you all,
Arik,
ok people... some time.. we have todays santances..
Howard,
Litter - What you wrote to me sounded rather wicked. It must just be my mind. I will answer you. You may touch my bear skins. You may not touch my bare skin (LOL).
Feminine and masculine writing.
Americo,
Howard,
Adultery? A definite no-no as far as I'm concerned. Yet, like Jimmy Carter, I'm guilty. Jesus said that anyone who even thought it was guilty of it. But he paid the penalty for it, so I'm not guilty any more.
Anyone for a cup of tea?
Hi Christi --
Hi Howard, nice to see you.
ut I managed to escape when they were'nt looking, and after several nights in the cold and dark I finally made it back.
Allein,
JEFF -- Welcome! Sounds like you have the same problem as many of us here. I myself have several novels in various stages of completion. I can usually finish a poem or an essay, though I reserve the right to revisit and rewrite as necessary. Stick around -- maybe we can find the finish line together.
Rachel -- You could at least
howard
Eddie French
eddiefrench@email.com
Sun Mar 26 14:08:34 PST 2000
I keep getting my email replies to your address bounced back.(Been happening for some time actually) Please confirm your address in another email to me.
Thanks.
Ed
Rhoda
rfort@arn.net
Sun Mar 26 11:45:48 PST 2000
I did get that "Says it All" e-mail. There were no attachments in it. I got it from Howard and was so delighted with it, I sent it on to other friends in my address book and that very well might be how you got it, Eddie.
I heard this same e-mail read my Dr. Dean Adel on his radio show last week, so I know many other people got it too. I then got the e-mail from Howard. I enjoyed it much more by reading it. If I was instrumental in sending a virus to anyone however unwittingly, I am sorry. Furthermore I never open attached files in an e-mail unless I am expecting one (i.e., Teekay might send me a short story to look over). I also do not click URL's in unknown e-mail.
I was not aware that you could get a virus just by opening e-mail and reading it. Of course in this strange new world of computing, anything is possible. I love passing on funny e-mail, but I am about to give up the practice. I forwarded Howard's e-mail to some of my best friends, having all the best intentions, of course.
Howard,
I haven't heard of your author friend. I really do not read a lot of romances. But I do know someone else who writes for Zebra. Actually it is a good company. Small world, isn't it.
Well, I have to run.
Rhoda
Christi
eggnoggin@yahoo.com
Sun Mar 26 11:35:26 PST 2000
I've been going to this awesome website for awhile, and have learned more about agents, editors, and the art of writing in a shorter time than I thought possible. I don't know how to make a link, but here's the address: http//www.sff.net/people/holly.lisle/intro.html/
It's Holly Lisle's Forward Motion. There is a ton of great information, and her articles and essays are a blast to read. She's very hands on and updates regularly, unlike a lot of sites out there.
I hope it's of some help to somebody; it sure helped me.
Hi Jeff, and welcome.
I myself had the same problem, and to some degree, still do. Too many projects. Finally I got really excited about one and worked on it until it was done. That's what I've done ever since. I pick one, while the others are in the back of my mind, but on hold. I think you can work on a couple of things at a time successfully, but more than that would be probably be too much to handle (for me at least). The site I listed above has some great answers to the questions you are wrestling with. She can answer them so much better than I could. You should check it out!
Ashling,
Thank you a MILLION for the link! This may encourage me to get off my keester and finally get cracking on the sci-fi novel I've been wanting to write. I've got about five pages done; only a few hundred more to go! Ouch.
Have a yeehaw day everybody. (YeeeeeHAW!)
Christi
Eddie French
eddiefrench@email.com
Sun Mar 26 08:41:05 PST 2000
Thanks for the info. (Really!)
The message had all of the hallmarks of a trojan horse.
It was enclosed within an attachment, it had previous send history in the tag, The from field read 'Unspecified sender'
That is exactly how they arrive!. I wouldn't open one for the earth with the trouble I've had with virus' lately.
It's in the bin and mashed by now. Please send it again and I will open it on your say so. See, I do trust my fellow notebookers.
Sorry Howard but that's just the way you have to be now when you're on the net!
Thanks again
Ed
Ashling
aka_Ashling@yahoo.com
http://www.fictionforest.com/whispers/index.html
Sun Mar 26 03:22:20 PST 2000
Anyone writing a Sci-Fi or Fantasy novel? Check out the URL above ... First time novelists can win a book contract with Time Warner. The deadline is June 30th. I'm writing mainstream, but thought this might interest a few folks here.
Happy Writing,
Ashling
Jeff Sullivan
jeos29@hotmail.com
Sat Mar 25 23:52:45 PST 2000
I am looking to talk with people who know something about writing and the even harder task of disciplining the creative demon; which I find demands to much of me at this time. This is my problem: I have to have too much to say about everything! I find my creativity searcihng for its own form, but too restless to settle on one ( At present I have in progress several poems, short stories, a few essays and a copule of plays--with signifigant progess on all just no real shape. Can someone help me? Is this normal, is it just a lack of discipline to put an end to things, because endings for me are the hardest as by the time I think I've got hold of the end the thing has changed shape yet again. I want some control, maybe the better word is direction, for my thoughts and ideas, but I don't want to destroy the muse, and become a writer of dead things that are pretty and neat but totally artless and devoid of passion. For if you can not write with passion then you should stay home and not venture out the door into the writer's world. I would be intrested to hear from anyone about this dilema and about writers and writing
Jeff
Jerry Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Sat Mar 25 17:20:47 PST 2000
howard
htuckey
Sat Mar 25 14:52:53 PST 2000
There's no virus in that e-mail -- I composed it and sent it from scratch. I picked the subject "says it all" and sent it to a few on my list. Rhoda must have forwarded it to you. What made you think it contained a virus?
howard
Eddie French
eddiefrench@email.com
Sat Mar 25 14:33:36 PST 2000
If anybody else recieves an email with an attachment and the subject is:
Says it all..
Please please please...DO NOT OPEN IT!!!!
It is a 'Trojan Horse' Virus.
This is not a virus in the accepted meaning of the term.
This little app. (Once 'OPENED' looks at your contact lists and sends an email, (a copy of the one you just read after opening it) to everbody on your contact list.
This may not seem like such a big deal, but if you are at work and your company has - let's say - 3000 employees, then each employee will have every other employee on their contact list.
So... #1 opens the mail.
This 'Trojan horse sends the message to 2999 fellow emplyees.
Each employee has every other employee on her/his contact list.
The 'Trojan horse' gets sent 2999 times to each and every contact.
Each member of the contact list sends out 2999 more....
and so on.....and so on.....and so on...
All e communication grinds to a halt because every inbox has to cope with a never ending influx of emails.
Sick, isn't it!
Howard
Rhoda
Please use this as a learning experience.
DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS!!
Not unless they have been arranged in advance by both parties.
BTW, No I did not open it. You will not get this with my name on it as the sender.
Thanks all,
Ed
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Sat Mar 25 13:14:04 PST 2000
Trudy
Christi
Sat Mar 25 11:39:58 PST 2000
Yes, and I'm so excited that it's going to be a movie! I get all the latest news from Card's website, Hatrack River. I think Jake Lloyd is a pretty good actor, but think that the kid who did "The Sixth Sense" would portray Ender better even though he's a little too old.
If you go to Card's website, you can even read some of the script he's come up with so far for the screenplay. It is kind of disappointing; he changes quite a lot, editing the Peter and Valentine plotline out, but I guess everything can't be included. Thanks for the URL, I'll bet there's stuff there I haven't heard about yet.
I have the book he wrote on writing Science Fiction too, and I don't know where mine is either! Between me and my family, I think we own every Card book there is. He can probably buy that new condo thanks to us. ;)
I hope you and Fran have a marvelous time in Hawaii. You must tell us about your trip so we can live vicariously!
Christi
Jerry Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
http://come.to/Inscriptions
Sat Mar 25 09:26:29 PST 2000
Jerry
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 25 08:18:58 PST 2000
All --
Another excellent scifi tale is "Heiro's Journey" by Sterling Lanier. It, and it's continuation "The Unforsaken Heiro," are excellent also, and his fans have been waiting for a long time now, for the third book. He's in his late 70's now, though, so I've about given up hope that he'll write a close to the series. Lanier is the editor that took a chance on a Frank Herbert book, when no one else thought it was worth anything. That book was "Dune." and the rest is history.
RHODA -- Have you ever heard of Patricia Bray? She writes romance novels for the Zebra Regency label, and has just published her fifth. She is also a programmer-analyst, and works right down the hall from me. I've been acquainted with her for several years, but never knew she was a writer until I saw the cover from her latest book posted on her office door.
SASQUATCH -- If you're still lurking, are you writing too, or did you just visit to tantalize us?
howard
Jack Beslanwitch
jack@webwitch.com
http://www.frescopictures.com/movies/ender/endersgame_update.html
Sat Mar 25 02:26:45 PST 2000
Well, I should get back to studying my Padi course work. Fran and I start our first class tomorrow towards getting our certification in open water scuba diving tomorrow. We are looking forward to diving in the Hawaiian Islands this July when we go there for Conolulu.
Sat Mar 25 01:35:34 PST 2000
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Fri Mar 24 23:33:09 PST 2000
Cassandra
arcane128@hotmail.com
Fri Mar 24 19:20:40 PST 2000
Litter
Fri Mar 24 13:50:13 PST 2000
Catch you all in a couple of weeks
Ciao,
Litter
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Fri Mar 24 09:48:58 PST 2000
HEATHER and TEEKAY -- Some research for my book -- Is it legal in Canada or Australia for a man to marry his widow's sister? It's not legal here, just wondering about there.
howard
Cassandra
arcane128@hotmail.com
Fri Mar 24 09:09:40 PST 2000
Howard- You can't prove anything! That could have been anyone with their shirt up over their head doing a keg stand!
Allein: I'm gonna miss you! You crazy little monkey! Have fun at camp, flirt with the cute guys you meet for me. That way I'll know that you're having fun. :)
I need to shower and do laundry... it sucks when you have to wear that last pair of underwear. You know, the one's holier than the Shroud of Turin...
Anyways, Love you all! And may the muse bless you with words to make the mountains weep, or the skiess laugh.
'later
Cassandra
Heather
Fri Mar 24 07:57:38 PST 2000
(And yes, I've been writing furiously on my novel...)
A man was found dead in his car, stabbed to death. He was alone, with the windows up and the doors locked. It was not suicide. All of the windows were intact. How did the killer do it? (No, the killer didn't lock up afterwards)
I can only answer yes or no to any questions - you are allowed as many questions as you like to try and solve the mystery. If you have heard this one, don't give it away!
I have a few more of these ones, one easy, the other pretty hard. This one is my favourite!
Good luck everyone! BWA HA HA HA HA (does the copyright on the laugh include four or five Ha's?)
Hope Rachel and Americo (and Pussy and Jon) are lurking too!
Hugs all 'round!
Heather
P.S. - I am still thinking of another story for SM** but since I'm on a roll with my novel, it might be a while. Keep the round robin open, please!
And thanks for the info on Henderson's books, Jack!
When do I get a book sent to me, Teekay, Howard? I will pass it on - great idea! Sounds FUN! I have a book or two I would be willing to part with on the condition that it returns to me eventually. :0}
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Fri Mar 24 04:30:52 PST 2000
Allein
gsouza@corc.net
gariess
Fri Mar 24 02:09:30 PST 2000
GS
Thu Mar 23 21:14:20 PST 2000
1: None. It was Noah who took the animals on the ark.
&
2: ALL the months have 28 days. BWAH HA HA HA HA and I didn't even ask anybody what the answers were.
Now for you:
'A boy and his Father were in a terrible accident and they were rushed to hospital. The Father was in a critical condition and admitted to intensive care, the boy however required surgery. They rushed him into the operating theatre and prepared him for the operation, but when the surgeon came in and looked at the boy said,
"I cannot operate on this boy, he is my son."
How Can That Be?????????
Have fun at J.I.C. What happens there??
Christi
eggnoggin@yahoo.com
Thu Mar 23 20:46:40 PST 2000
Well, after some thought as to who I'd like to send my favorite book to, I came up with a winner. Da da dada!!! Jerry!! You are the lucky winner because I want you to have something more interesting to do than play computer games. (Tee hee) I PROMISE you will like this book. Just give me a chance, for the love of God, man! Seriously though, this book changed the way I thought about writing. Mr. Card really knows how to spin a yarn. Let me know if you would like me to send this to you, Jerry. (Email is above.)
Teekay,
You're very good at getting me moving on things, so I will promise to produce something soon. I work in spastic spurts and never know when to 'spect a story to spew forth. (hee hee!)
BTW, when do we get to read your story??? I'm dying to read it, but will understand if you can't let me, because of the contest (No, I didn't forget!). If you don't give me SOMETHING else to read soon, I will end up on your doorstep with my sleeping bag. I hear the weather's quite nice at this time of year. Just don't make me cry again.;)
I have never even heard of the Stephanie Plum Novels. Ohh, I am so excited. I will Email you immediately, if not sooner.
Litter,
How do you rate a two-weeker in Spain?! Are you going to get some new hats for your collection while you're there? (Just read your Bio. :)) Live it up, Leeterali! (I literally feel like a doofus for not catching the double meaning.)
Heather,
You must be completely on a roll with your novel. I hope so, but I hope you are still lurking. FLURP!!!
Bye Allein, you will be missed. :o(
Martin,
Hope that itch to write turns into a full-blown rash! Sorry, that was a disgusting way to put it. (giggle)
And as for Jon, for all we know he went back to heaven. No phone call, no post card, . . . nothing. We can only hope that he and the others will return soon.
Apologies to all for monopolising the notebook once again.
Thank you, and goodnight!
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Thu Mar 23 18:55:35 PST 2000
TEEKAY - The answer to the first question is that you don't bury survivors. And the answer to the second question is once because after you subtract 5, it becomes 20. Now some for you:
1) How many animals did Moses carry on the Ark?
2) How many months have 28 days?
You have tomorrow and Saturday to figure it out. I'm going to a Japanese Immersion Camp this weekend. :) I get to wake up at 4:15 AM tomorrow.
I know, you'll all have to bear my absence. You'll survive.
Ciao,
Allein
Teekay
Thu Mar 23 18:11:06 PST 2000
Bye.
Teekay
Thu Mar 23 18:05:37 PST 2000
'HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU SUBTRACT THE NUMBER 5 FROM 25?'
Teekay
Thu Mar 23 18:00:39 PST 2000
Now about this novel thing. The way I had it in my head was that we'd just take our favourite novel, doesn't have to be knew, however it does need to be yours and not the libraries or they won't be too impressed to get it back with everybodies scrawlings all over it. Then we'd send it off to each of the notebookers ie: I will send mine to Rhoda who will read it and put her name in the front leaf, I think with a one sentence review on what she thought of it. One word doesn't cover too much. When Rhoda is finished she will send it on to the next notebooker and let me know who it is so I can keep track of it, and so on and eventually, if I'm lucky, I shall have my book returned to me with all you wonderful people having autographed it. Remember if you are the owner of the book to have it clearly stated so that we each know who the book is supposed to go back to.
I think this is a brilliant idea and it looks to me like I'm taking credit for it when in actual fact it is HOWARDS idea. I don't think it will cost too much to post it. I think it will cost me more than anybody as mine has further to go to each of you.
The thing is we shall each have books out doing the round robin and it might take a while for them to get back , and we only pass them on when we've finished reading them. I feel like I'm rambling.
RHODA: I received your chapters, Thanks. Don't you go and buy a copy of the book. That will miss the whole point. I shall send out the book either today or next week. I am so excited about this. I think it will be such fun. I would love to read your favourite book, but at the moment I am awaiting HOWARDS. I have heaps of favourites too, but this one really stands out in my mind.
CHRISTI: I would also love to read your book. If you don't get anybody volunteering to go first, just email them or post them on the notebook. Sometimes people are shy.
ALLIEN : Well done. Here's another and don't groan. 'A jet plane crashes on exactly in the middle of the border between South Australia and the Northern Territory. Where do they bury the survivors????'
And all the rest of you can stop groaning too.
And I have so many more BWAH HA HA HA HA HA , That reminds me, I miss RACHEL.
CHRISTI: Of course it's an empty threat and the statement that you offend people is a flurpin',downright, spankin, cotton pickin' lie. Hee hee. It's about time you put in another story. I loved that first one.
B.T.W. have you ever read the Stephanie Plum Novels, by Janet Evanovich? I think you would love them. The first one.......no wait. Send me your address in an email and I shall send it to you and you can do the comment thing on it, after all it's my second favourite lot of books. I don't think the guys would be too interested in these though, they're pretty girly, and lots of fun and laughs.
JERRY: I read your story, sure didn't see that end coming.
As I was reading it I thought to myself 'I wonder if 'walking Aunt Daid' is anything like this?' It was like inside a dream. I really like your stories, they have a Stephen King feel to them. I think that is one of the best compliments in the world.
HEEEEEAAAAATTTHHHEEEER: Where are you? I miss you posts. Come hither, don't dither and flurp a while.
Okay everyone I'm off to lunch. Have a terrific day.
Litter
Me@Dot-Kohm.com
Thu Mar 23 17:57:43 PST 2000
Thu Mar 23 17:55:54 PST 2000
Off to Spain for 2 weeks on this coming Saturday, but my absence will be purely temporary. (and sunny and siestas and wines and too much UV and headaches) But I will be taking a couple of fresh new notebooks to work on some fresh new ideas. Ahhh, sitting on a sea-facing balcony with a BBQ pit and a nearby wine cellar, and no need to do anything I don't want to…
Martin - I realised your &^$£^&* Sassenach comments were made in fun ;o) As for becoming an American - I like Americans - although I couldn't eat a whole one!!!
Sasquatch - I am eco-friendly Litter. Biodegradable too, so I shall not cause any harm to your home. Making fun of names is good - the beginning of satire. My name is merely a deliberate misspelling of Literally, but you would be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't?) at how many people didn't cotton on to that fact. Having a name like Litter is pretty cool though since I am greeted by my name in every town I go to - OK, so they are all prohibition signs - seems nobody wants Litter around anymore :o(
Howard - I'm not gone quite yet, but I'm working on it…
Allein - liked the questionnaire. I am not at the stage of 'interviewing' boyfriends for both of my teenage girls, a task I have looked forward to for quite some time now :o) I, however, have streamlined the whole procedure to one brief statement. This I delivered, most recently, only last week, much to the embarrassment of my younger daughter Kirsteen, who screamed at me from the hall such things as 'Please don't dad… Dad, don't say anything… and so on. All I said to her new boyfriend, as he stood in front of me, a good six inches shorter than I and with my steely grip on his shoulder to avoid his escape, was: "I only have one rule for you - You make Kirsteen cry and I make you cry." I think he got the message. Kirsteen was embarrassed, but pleased that I cared. Kids! Who can make them out?
Heather - check your mailbox. Hope you are not disappointed.
Rachel's departure was quite unexpected - anybody know if it was anything in particular? I can't find anything particularly serious in the notebook… Then again Amerigo's going was equally unexpected?
Well I'm going, but the bad news is that I'm coming back!!! I wonder if they have cyber-cafes where I'm going in Spain??????????????
Ciao/Adios (?)
Litter
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/9304
Thu Mar 23 17:08:56 PST 2000
My wife used to work as a nurses aide at a nursing home. Her knee gave out on her a couple of months ago, and we have been running south some 200 miles every two weeks for her to visit with her Dr. Finally last week, he decided what was wrong with her knee, and put her in physical therapy. Her boss has been real nice about everything, and even though her sick pay and vacation have run out, they keep paying her and paying her insurance. Well she got a call yestreday asking her to come up to the hospital/nursing home. She was scared that it was the end of her job. Well when she got there, they said that since the Dr. said she probably wouldn't be able to go back to work as an aide (they called him and asked) would she like an office job. She said yes, and she starts Monday as the assistant office manager for the hospital. This with a .15 per hr raise. Nice raise for around here. We are both very happy with this, as it means no more night shifts, weekends or working holidays.
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Thu Mar 23 12:58:04 PST 2000
and the sentance of the day is by gairess:
"Remember, Life is as brief as the product of a flatulent
butterfly."
sorry people.. this is not from this notebook this time :-).
and the sentance in this notebook is by Rhoda:
"I am happy to hear about your wife's new job."
why won't you tell us what is her new job? ;)
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Thu Mar 23 07:17:45 PST 2000
Howard, regarding mailing books, I've actually heard of several circles where people sent books along for others to read...I wonder how much it would cost to mail a paperback? Here in Canada to buy new they cost around $10 so if it's less than that it would be worth it. My kind of chain letter!
Christi...thanks! I'll keep you posted!
Rhoda...you've tried to stay away too! I actually did it but now I'm back with a vengence...it's not computer games I need to stay away from like Jerry; it's wonderful writing sites like these!
OK must get an article written...have a lovely spring day all!
Trudy
Allein, peacocks are so pretty, though I haven't seen one for awhile!
Rhoda
rfort@arn.net
Thu Mar 23 06:15:58 PST 2000
Sounds like a great idea. I can read the book. In fact I think I can easily get a copy of it. I should offer you my favorite in return, but I have to think a little on that because I have so many favorites.
We had lots of thunder storms yesterday and I stayed off the computer most of the day. Teekay, I will get you the next two chapters directly.
Christi,
Please don't leave. There are many of us still here.
Rachel,
You must do what you must, but if you are like me, you will have a hard time staying away for long. I know, I have tried countless times. Anyway, I hope you work out whatever problem you have and you get lots of writing done. Do not stay away long.
Jerry,
I am happy to hear about your wife's new job.
Please, please, don't anyone else think of leaving.
Rhoda
Martin
mpharris71@aol.com
Thu Mar 23 05:10:31 PST 2000
My favourite book (at the moment - it can change from week to week) is Void Moon by Michael Connelly. I read it yesterday and totally loved it, unfortunately I dont have it to send on, since it was a library book (our bookshelves at home are so full up, my wife wont let me buy anymore - until I build more bookshelves!!). But I highly recommend it to anyone who likes crime/suspense (but not detective) type stories.
Anyway, nothing much more to say. I think Im getting close to starting a new novel soon (hopefully one which I will finish), Im feeling the familliar itch to sit down and type, just dont want to start until I know Im ready, or I will lose heart 3 pages.
M.
PS - Where did Jon go?
Christi
Wed Mar 22 21:47:06 PST 2000
BTW Trudy, I forgot to wish you big, big luck on getting that job with the Website. GOOD LUCK!!! :)
Jerry,
That's really good news on your end. Congrats! Stay away from those computer games though. They're time suckers.
Is anyone here interested in reading MY very favorite book in the world? It's called Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card, and it's tres fabu! It's sci-fi, but even if you don't like that kind of thing I think you'll like this book. I will send it to whoever requests it first, with the exception of sasquatch because the post office doesn't deliver to forest dwellers.
Hugarooni's
Christi
Jerry Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Wed Mar 22 21:15:43 PST 2000
Sending books by mail, what a wonderful idea. Wished I'd thought about it before the folks at Amazon.com.
Good news though, after two and a half months off work, my wife gets to go back next week. Not to the same job, but as an assistant office manager. Great work for her, and it will get her off her feet. She was working as a nurses aide. More money and less work, just what everyone needs.
Maybe, just maybe I will have more time to write now. If I can just keep away from the computers with all the games on them.
Keep the Peace.
Jerry
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Wed Mar 22 20:36:26 PST 2000
CHRISTI -- Don't even think about leaving!
ARIK -- Another sentence, please!
LITTER -- Hurry back, before everyone is gone! And bring us a jug of that good Spanish Sherry. And if you get to Barcelona, stop at Jimmy's Bar, and tell them I said hi!
SASQUATCH -- If you're still lurking, what was that recipe you gave Heather? And why not give Christi a chance?
ANDI -- Hi!
RANDALL -- Are you gone too?
RACHEL-ARIEL -- If it hurts as much there as it does here you might as well come back!
JERRY -- Did you take a potshot at S* ?
CASSANDRA -- Time to 'fess up! Was that you on the six o'clock news?
ALLEIN -- Tired of 18 yet? And thanks for that application! Good one!
Dunno about sending novels -- wouldn't they be kind of expensive to mail? Maybe not, though -- it might be fun at that!
G'nite all --
howard
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Wed Mar 22 20:00:35 PST 2000
Cassandra - Will you be on tomorrow night? I'd like to chat with you.
Ciao,
Allein
Cassandra
arcane128@hotmail.com
Wed Mar 22 19:55:51 PST 2000
Well, I was staying with my mother, and it was kind of not an opportune week for "hot nights"... besides, I'm not the casual "hot nights" type of girl. :)
Anyways, a good night to all... I should do some writing for once :D
ta ta
Cassandra
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Wed Mar 22 19:45:13 PST 2000
Christi, it's not you. Don't leave. Teekay will return I'm sure!
Flurp...
Trudy
Teekay.
Wed Mar 22 19:18:51 PST 2000
RHODA: Do you want to be first to read my favourite book? It's the one I told you about by Ken Follett, 'Pillars of the earth', and then you can write your name and address in it and what you thought of the book in 1 word and then send it on. And don't say your too busy writing to read it. It's fantastic.
ALLIEN: Lucky for that peacock your Dad was there. *ouch*
QUESTION: How many eggs can a peacock lay at one time??
CHRISTI: Loved your post. Did the Ha Ha thingy. It was flurpin' great.
And yes Christi, it was you who offended everybody. I'm leaving too.
Seeya.
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Wed Mar 22 17:32:59 PST 2000
I know you had to leave me,
but you also left empty
that place in my heart.
There is a memory,
but it doesn't fill it,
leaving just enough room
to hold a tear.
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Wed Mar 22 15:48:57 PST 2000
On the way home though, in a yard my dad and I saw a peacock - right in the driveway. It was amazing. We drove back for a closer look and I opened the door and then he spread his beautiful tail feathers out. I wanted to pluck one, but my dad said that he was probably scared and not to bother him. I wish I'd had a camera with me.
Anyway, just thought I'd share that with you - the beauty of nature can sometimes amaze you. I mean, I've seen plenty of peacocks in pictures but never in real life and never with its tail feather spread. I've seen a peahen before though - boring. They're pretty dull.
Ciao,
Allein
Christi
Wed Mar 22 15:32:04 PST 2000
Heather,
I think you've started a trend with "flurp". This is a wonderful word and it could have many meanings.
As Heather intended, as a unsalvageable screw up: "I was making filet mignon for supper, but flurped it and now we're having liver."
A replacement for the curse word I'm trying to quit saying: "That's flurpin' great, I love the Teletubbies too!"
A small bird: "Look at the cute flurp building his nest. Run little flurp or Arik will squish your head!
A replacement for the OTHER word I'm trying to quit saying: Kelly (my husband), stop that flurping! Ye gads, what DID you have for lunch?!!
Sorry everyone. I think I drank too much decaf.
Howard and Teekay,
Between the two of you, you have come up with an ingenious idea. I really love it. I'm willing, and already have the book picked out (not sure about which picture though). What does everyone else think?
Rachel,
Oh dear, do I offend? It seems that since I came a lot of people are leaving. Don't be afraid to tell me, I can always go back to lurking around on the web. :( Wahhhhh!
You too Sasquatch? We haven't had our date yet. I promise to leave the bunny ears at home.
Allein,
Loved the joke. I'm glad that test wasn't around when I was dating, because my dad would have used it! (And I'm not kidding.)
Happy Wednesday everybody!
Teekay
Wed Mar 22 13:31:22 PST 2000
TRUDY: Yeeeeeeeeees???? Nunavet. What is Nunavet?? Sounds like a vegetarian substitute for meat. Another ha ha
HOWARD: I just though of another idea on top of your idea, how about if we each notebooker sent their favourite novel to each of the notebookers and maybe if we wanted we could have our photo stuck in it. This way we could get to know each other better without having our pics on the net. What do you think??
RACHEL: Were you Ariel?? Please don't be gone to long.
RHODA: Welcome back. Did you have your head out of your lap top long enough to have a good break??? I finished those chapters a while back, but only sent them this am.
JERRY: I haven't read your story yet. I'm off to find it now. I looooove new stories.
ADULTERY:
Do you know what we've got here?
A case of 'thou shalt not',
A simple case of forbidden love,
that's just what we've got.
What we'd be like as man and wife,
we can only wonder,
for what the Lord has joined together,
may no man put asunder.
So how can we go on this way?
Meeting secretly.
Coming together under nights shadow,
when we know we can't be free.
So we'll just call it quits right now,
there'll be no more holding hands,
you go back to your loving wife,
and I'll go back to my pots and pans.
Bye all. Have made an early start as this is playgroup morning and we just love to go to playgroup. We really do.
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Wed Mar 22 11:31:27 PST 2000
You just returned from lounging in sunny Florida! How could you not have had hot nights?
Trudy
Cassandra
arcane128@hotmail.com
Wed Mar 22 09:45:57 PST 2000
Arik-
You go boy! I haven't had a "hot night" in quite a while. It's good to see that such things still go on without me... it's also slightly depressing, but let's forget about that and just be happy for you, huh. Sounds good to me.
I think gairess had a particularly good sentance the other day with: "Remember, Life is as brief as the product of a flatulent butterfly." I couldn't help but guffaw at that one. :)Good job!
Well, for now I've got an short essay to write on the influence of Neoplatonic thought on Michealangelo's work. (thrilling yesno?) Some sketches, which probably require a trip down to the art department later, and a photo project I'm frankly stumped about. They all have to have a narrative so odds are I'm going to need to use my silver tongue to rope some friends into modeling for me. They all love me anyways, they'll do it. Or I'll 'repay' them later... mwahahahahaha.
Well, tis off to lunch for me now, with notebook in hand to hopefully ponder my essay in freewrite form.
Have fun you lucky people who are able to make time to write for yourselves! Guess the cat and I are both green today... Well as long as I'm not puce by the end of the day, I'll consider myself blessed.
Cassandra
Have you hugged an eletric fence lately?
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Wed Mar 22 09:01:00 PST 2000
Jerry Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
http://fiction.4-writers.com/fiction-writing-course.shtml
Wed Mar 22 07:24:58 PST 2000
Jerry
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Wed Mar 22 07:02:44 PST 2000
Well all, I finished up my big assignment...1,000 words for a website that pays real gooood! The editor said she will let me know Friday what she thinks so keep those fingers crossed. This was my prove-yourself assignment and it will be a real break for my freelance writing career if I can get regular assignments from this site. Now I just have one story left about computer use in Nunavut. I guess I should get to work coming up with otehr ideas huh? Anybody here a computer re-seller on the side who'd like to brainstorm about story ideas? Not thatthese are my ideals to be writing about but hey they pay the rent.
OK off to Nunavut. Happy day! And everybody else just stay put! No more leaving the notebook unless you promise to return!
Trudy
Martin
Wed Mar 22 05:21:53 PST 2000
I just came home from a "hot night" so the only thing I am going to do now is sleeping
(c) Arik
You go Tiger!
Rachel
Tue Mar 21 23:30:16 PST 2000
I say farewell
I send myself, well not to hell.
I go to write.
Gone from your sight.
I came to stay,
but for how long,
I did danced, I did paly,
I sang a song.
Something, something it has gone wrong.
I will go for now.
for how long?
Hard to say.
hard to know.
Hard to let you people go.
You live in my heart,
in my dreams
in my very reality,
or so it seems
I wish you farewell
Rachel, Guillaume and Ariel
Rosemary
rcalien7@cs.com
Tue Mar 21 16:28:48 PST 2000
Just thought I would mention that I bought a large collection of Zenna Henderson's stories about The People from the Science Fiction Book Club a year or so ago. They probably still have it. It seems like it was about $14 or so. I can't lay hands on it right at this moment, (not unpacked) and don't remember if those specific stories were in it, but all of her stories are great. I thought I had died and gone somewhere when I found that volume.
By for now,
Rosemary
Howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Tue Mar 21 16:13:22 PST 2000
TEEKAY -- if you'll send me your real address I have an extra copy of "Holding Wonder" that I can send you, if you promise to send it on to someone else in the group when you're done reading it.
I used to do that as an experiment -- find a really enjoyable book, and buy an extra copy. Then put my name and address in it and pass it on to someone, tell them to read it and do the same, and so on and so on... and just kind of share thoughts and ideas like that. Never got one back to see how many names were in it, but still hope that someday I will.
Maybe this is a good replacement.
howard
Jack
http://www.halcyon.com/seasigi/html.html
Tue Mar 21 13:38:38 PST 2000
Take care all and good writing
Jack Beslanwitch
Tue Mar 21 13:36:51 PST 2000
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Tue Mar 21 13:09:49 PST 2000
Heather
Tue Mar 21 11:54:13 PST 2000
Sounds great to me. I have no time to wander through the enchanting halls of used book stores these days. Though it's tempting. I would be searching for days.
My cat is now a clever puce shade, all curled and knotted upon the velvet. She yawns and shows her bristly pink tongue-brush. Triangle ears twitch, at each interval whence I tap the space bar. I must be waking her from her nap's nap.
Toodle-oo, fair friends and feathers.
Heather
Sasquatch
yeti@snowshoe.web
Tue Mar 21 11:38:59 PST 2000
Your relative does not make sense Jerry. Humans hunt animals for eat and for sport. Animals. But your relative regaled (I don't know that word) about my relatives who he said tortured and murdered humans people. But only humans do that torture and murder and not animals so how could he hunt yeti humans for sport? If we did those things we would be humans people and we are not. But if we are animal beasts then we would not do those things either. So why do humans peoples try to shoot us? Is it only because we are different? The one who made us made us different. But not to hate because of it. We are happy that all humans people are not as such. Some even come to see us with the cameras and leave us sweet things. And some even wish to come and live with us I think. But we cannot do that because of the others.
I must go now and maybe not come again. But I say that I will not torture and murder any humans even if they hurt us. Someone told us that it is wrong and we will not do it.
goodby
(S*) some day I will get even that right ha ha
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Tue Mar 21 08:59:00 PST 2000
howard
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Tue Mar 21 08:15:49 PST 2000
The Zenna Henderson books may be in the library, but you probably won't find "Ingathering" there. But that one is well worth the $25 to buy it from Amazon. "Holding Wonder" is often available in used book stores, but "The Anything Box" is rare.
howard
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Tue Mar 21 06:48:59 PST 2000
Glad to hear your kitty isn't blue!
Oh, Heather, what's flurping?
Hi to everyone else; now time to stop procrastinating! I have a deadline tomorrow and must get writing.
Trudy
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Tue Mar 21 05:25:19 PST 2000
APPLICATION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
Note: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical report from your physician.
1. What is your name, age, social security number, IQ and boy scout rank?
2. Do you have one male and one female parent? ____
If "No", explain:
3. Do you own or have access to a van? ____
4. A truck with oversize tires? ____
5. waterbed? ____
6. Do you have an earring, nose ring, or belly button
ring? ____
7. Do you have a tattoo? ____
*If you have answered YES to #3, #4 or #5, discontinue
application and leave immediately.*
8. In fifty words or less, what does LATE mean to you?
9. In fifty words or less, what does DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER mean to you?
10. In fifty words or less, what does ABSTINENCE mean to you?
11. In fifty words or less, what does REAL PAIN mean to you?
12. Church/Temple you attend: ____________________________
13. How often do you attend: ____________________________
14. When would be the best time to interview your mother,
father and priest/rabbi? ____________________________
15. Please fill in the blanks:
If I were shot, the last place on my body I would want wounded would be my ____________________________
If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken would be my ____________________________
A woman's place is in the ____________________________
The one thing I hope this application doesn't ask
is ____________________________
When I meet a girl, the one thing I always notice about her
first is ____________________________
*Note: If answer to last question begins with "T" or "A",
discontinue and leave premises - keeping your head low and
running in a serpentine fashion is advised*
What do you want to be IF you grow up?
I swear that all the above information is correct to the best of my knowledge under penalty of death, bodily harm,
dismemberment, torture or mental abuse.
Signature of applicant _________________________________
Signature of father _____________________________________
Signature of mother ____________________________________
Signature of priest/rabbi ___________________________________
Signature of State Representative _________________________
Thank you for your interest, and it had better be genuine and non-sexual. Please allow 4-6 years for processing. You will be contacted in writing if approved. If denied, please never apply again. Don't call me, I'll call you
gariess
gsouza@corc.net
Tue Mar 21 02:01:35 PST 2000
Remember, Life is as brief as the product of a flatulent butterfly. How more quckly pass the days of youth before we enter into the long years of adulteryhood.
Excuse me, my friend is saying something over my shoulder. What's that Fred? What about adulthood? Oh!
Okay guys, never mind!
GS
Rhoda
rfort@arn.net
Mon Mar 20 21:55:31 PST 2000
Denver was great! We saw the Natural History Museum. This morning we toured the Denver mint. Friday night we ice skated in Colorado Springs. Saturday we went to Focus on the Family and shopped at the Castle Rock Outlet Mall.
Adultery. Great subject and I loved reading the posts about it. I have seen female writers deal with it actually, though it is not a favorite Romance novel topic. Sort of in the lines of what Litter said, I think anything bad and good in the human experience is essential for good literature. Adultery makes a good topic because it represents the outer limits of human behavior, at least for most people. It entails ultimate betrayel. It is a behavior that has such far reaching effects on the participants and on the innocent alike.
I guess the way it is best dealt with is truthfully. I don't think any writer should take away the thrill of adulterous act, for if it wasn't thrilling or satisfying for a time why would anyone do it? But a writer also has the responsiblity to deal with consequences, long term and short term. I think one of the best books that does that is THE SCARLET LETTER. Though adultery was not the primary theme of that book. The theme was redemption.
I must admit that I never read ANNA KARININA, but I saw the movie and loved it. That was one of the best stories dealing with the theme. Anna gave into the impulse and one couldn't altogether blame her. She was more or less set up by the high class society she move in. But consider the price she paid. She literally threw everything away for her adulterous love (including Victorian hypocracy) and she ended up throwing herself in front of a train.
Rosemary,
So glad you enjoyed your convention. Personally, I never had much luck with agents at conventions or anywhere else. Editors were always more pleasant than agents.
Howard,
Glad to see you back and posting. I missed you.
I have much more to post, but since I just got back from my trip, I will have to defer most of it.
Good to be back,
Rhoda
Teekay
Mon Mar 20 20:46:08 PST 2000
HEATHER: I know what you mean. About the solitary writer thing and the whirl wind week. This is my writers group and it probably suits me best as I can tune into this whenever I want to.
We used to have catnip in the garden and the cats adored it. Yes if I could only find something similar for myself. I must plant some more, it seems rather cruel to deprive them of their pleasures. I think they must have suffocated the first lot.
I am guessing that puss is 'green' today?
CHRISTI: I know!!!! I love reading the new posts too. When I first found this place I spent ages reading the archives. Have you found the archives. I suppose you probably have.
HOWARD: Went over to the library yesterday and typed the title into the computer and nothing came up for it, so I went to type in the authors surname and ........I'd forgotten it!! I have to go over again today and see if I can find any of her work, though sci-fi is not normally what I read. However I am soooo curious.
ARIK: I was going to add to your poem, but HOWARD got there with his genius first and now I see no point really.
Am going now. Speaking of which, where are AMERICO, JON and PUSSY going???? Does anybody know??
Christi
eggnoggin@yahoo.com
Mon Mar 20 18:23:37 PST 2000
Jerry,
Had to let you know that I thoroughly enjoyed your story. I once spent twenty dollars of my babysitting money on that stupid "thing". (I don't want to give away the ending for those who haven't read it yet.) Waka waka waka!
I love reading new posts. So much fun!
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Mon Mar 20 17:46:23 PST 2000
Jerry
Howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Mon Mar 20 17:41:19 PST 2000
"The Anything Box" was available only in paperback, and as far as I know has never been reprinted. Besides "Aunt Daid" there's the Grunder, and more. Another collection containg other that her "People" stories is "Holding Wonder," with "Three-Cornered and Secure," "The Indelible Kind," and one called "You Know What, Teacher?" that will tear your heart out.
I honestly believe that Zenna Henderson was one of the best Science Fiction writers of the century.
howard
Heather
Mon Mar 20 17:39:35 PST 2000
We will all have to keep our chins up around the NB because Americo is leaving us. Dan&%)#! Th@ teardroppppssss ar@ Fi%%$$$inG out mY^* kEYs (!@@==./
Chrlupp! Sa a ay itsssnot sooo ?% . Fisnm335!
H@a ^t #e r~
Heather
Mon Mar 20 17:35:45 PST 2000
I wish catnip did the same for humans! I find it stinky and rather rude. But that's when it's lit.
Well, folks, looks like we will have to keep our chins up.
I was supposed to get a story off for SM** last night, but ended up flurping it so I erased it all. You didn't miss a thing, it was that bad. I'll not use that idea over again, but now I'm tumbling very few ideas around in the pan. I guess I tapped myself out on food stories with four in the first archive of SM**? Plus a poem...
And I need to channel ideas into my novel anyhow.
Very interested in the writer's conference. Interested in Trudy's writer's group as well; but when would I have a night free that all the members do, IF in fact you would invite me to join? Right now I am the solitary writer, working from the pages of home. Not that the input wouldn't be great, or the drive boost to produce work, but it is crazy busy merry go round life these days. I barely get enough sleep before the merry go round starts up for the day again...
It is go-round sickness! Vertigo surely.
Makes for heady writing!
Ta ta and a tip o' the hat to all o' ya.
Heather
Trudy
tkf@stn.net
Mon Mar 20 16:48:42 PST 2000
MARTIN, you may ask as many questions as you like...I don't really hit a wall ... my problem really is that I get distracted by other projects; usually ones with deadlines and paychecks at the end of them! I really believe that to finish my novel I must find a way to make deadlines that mean something For me just saying I will finish something on a certain date is not reason enough to always do it!) I think when I start my writers group here in Georgetown that will be my monthly deadline to write something new on my novel to share with my group. Then maybe it will get finished!
Do others get so many projects on the go they don't know what to work on and therefore nothing gets finished or is it just me?!
HEATHER, is your cat still blue? Too bad you made your cat sad by laughing...
hee hee
Happy spring all!
Trudy
Jack Beslanwitch
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0915368587/
Mon Mar 20 16:47:57 PST 2000
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Mon Mar 20 15:37:10 PST 2000
sasquatch
yeti@overshoe.net
Mon Mar 20 10:56:00 PST 2000
Also Cassandra the little children probably would not be running crying if you would sing summertime instead of old man river. You see we know show tunes also and we hum them a lot.
S*
Martin
mpharris71@aol.com
Mon Mar 20 10:55:01 PST 2000
LITTER - Apologies for my "scotch" comment. I actually have Scottish family, so its all meant in fun! As for curing me of being English, I am well on my way now to being American, so I guess I am cured (or maybe its just a worsening of the disease!!)
JON - Thank you for what was fair and just marking. Im sure if Id had more time to study, Id have passed!!! Also, No, Jon does not play such dirty tricks, his questions were good. There I said it....do I get and extra marks for that?
EDDIE - Thanks for defending me, but dont worry, I took Jons test in fun and his scoring in a simillar manner....I will continue to post even without the panels blessing!
TEEKAY - As you can see I am here....I was not sacked, but went skiing for the weekend and survived!
JON - Ich nicht sprechen Deutsch (As you can see!!) aber...
1. I dont know who he is, but would love for you to tell me
2. Adolf, surely everyone knows that one!
3. I dont know what bedeutet means, but Im guessing the question was, "What does piss off mean?", in which case I hope that wasnt a subtle way off telling me to piss off!!!
Cassandra
Mon Mar 20 09:38:36 PST 2000
It's a lovely Spring day in Albany Ny. Makes you feel like loudly singing showtunes.. *ahem* *ahem* La la laaa.... Considering the little children running and screaming, I probably should hold off on that. :)
Americo-
Don't stay away for too long. I might disagree with you sometimes but I never mean any harm.
Jon-
You an A* are tied for who I'll miss most. Would you care for a spot of tea?
Sasquatch-
My older brother's fifth grade teacher had a name that sounded like Sasquatch and he kind of looked like one too. Is there any chance that some cross-breeding happened at one of your big rabbit eating schindigs? Perhaps you took a page from Tarzan and raised him as one of your own from a small child?
Did you ever see the movie Henry and the Hendersons? Was that you in that, or someone you know? We'll have to set up a chance to sign autographs.
Anyways, I'm off to either do some work or write. :D
ta ta
Cassandra
Rachel
Mon Mar 20 08:08:18 PST 2000
Sasquatch
yeti@overshoe.net
Mon Mar 20 07:07:56 PST 2000
Christi, you should be very careful when you wear bunny ears in our forest. We yeti tend to eat first and ask questions afterwards, and bunny is one of our favorite meals. Although you would be more like dessert I think ha ha ha. And now I am blushing.
S* is that a right short name for me?
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Mon Mar 20 06:43:41 PST 2000
An Ode To Furballs
1. After dark, all cats are jaguars...
2. Never *ever* try to baptize a cat.
3. Cats are smarter than dogs. You cannot get a cat to pull a sled.
4. A cat knows your every thought. It doesn't care. But it knows.
5. If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I will put shoes on my cat...
6. Most people with cats, know they are being controlled. That's the horror of it...
7. Never try to out stubborn a cat.
8. Thousands of years ago, humans worshiped the cat. They have not forgotten this...
9. Whenever I bathe my cat, it takes an hour to get the fur off of my tongue.
10. I prefer to live with Feline Sapiens, thank you very much.
11. Picture of a fat tabby on a couch, looking at his owner: "My species domesticated your species..."
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Mon Mar 20 06:36:08 PST 2000
A few lines -- I give them to you. No award necessary. It still needs finishing to be a proper song, but you have begun more than a song here.
His name was author, the glorious king,
And his sign was an eagle, with one broken wing,
broken in victory, triumphant but bowed
victorious but never again for the cloud
pinion turned quill in the hand of the bard
who would write of the saga of vict'ry from shard
while the eagle in majesty rode evermore
on the breastplate of author, whose image he bore.
howard
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Sun Mar 19 22:29:33 PST 2000
the song:
In the mighty days of love and hope,
In the creepy days of swords and a rope,
One man stood against all evil,
He was fiurious, but a good leader.
His name was author, the glorious king,
And his sign was an eagle, with one broken wing,
Thank you guys. And let me know what you all think about this song :-).
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Sun Mar 19 22:24:27 PST 2000
thank you Litter very much :-). OK people.. After a long think I understood the sentances:
The most smart, is by Jon :-)))) but it is not "anyone for a cup of coffy" it is.....
"Heather, what do you think the name Arik means? For me it means nice, generous, everything!"
and the most stupid is:
"Sun Mar 19 19:41:40 PST 2000" (WHAT THE HELL IS THAT???)
I also want to say another nice sentance from a book:
"This is the most important moment in my life,
No moment exsists exsept this one,
No moment important exsept this moment
I was born in this moment, and if I'll fale,
In this moment I'll die."
Raistlin Mazar
Good day to all of you :-)
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
http://sailor.gutenberg.org/
Sun Mar 19 19:50:39 PST 2000
Sasquatch - Had a relative that once told tales of hunting Big-Foot in the back woods of Washington. As he told it, he did get some shots off, but every time they shot at bigfoot, he would turn and make an obscene gesture with his middle finger then run off into the bush. Think that was probably one of your relatives.
Adultry, never tried it, but like Former President Carter, I have lusted in my mind. It does make for a good story line. Made life interesting for me when I was a cop, as it is one of the main causes of domestic disputes (one of the most dangerous and hated calles for any police officer).
Keep the Peace.
Jerry
Sun Mar 19 19:41:40 PST 2000
Rosemary
rcalien7@cs.com
Sun Mar 19 19:37:36 PST 2000
I just got home a couple of hours ago from one of the most exausting and interesting weekends I can remember. The Writers conference in Houston, Texas.
My friend and I checked in on Thursday afternoon and signed up for ten minute (each) interviews with three agents or editors. There was also a book doctor there who would edit five pages of manuscript. Around these appointments, there were ongoing workshops (speeches) of many kinds. In between all this were lunches, an Award Dinner, Brunch during which agents and editors answered questions, two nights of ice-breaker gatherings, and to tell you the truth, I am so tired right now, there was probably a lot more but I can't think about it.
My friend writes historical novels and didn't have much luck with the agents she talked to. One editor did ask for proposals for nonfiction articles about Texas women.
My interviews were all with editors and my field seems to be young adult science fiction. (I wasn't really sure) The two E-Publishers wanted samples of my novel, Random house reluctantly agreed to allow me to send a synopsys and three chapters, and (we slipped in an extra interview) the publisher of an E-Zine (magazine) was interested in a couple of my short stories. (One of them will have to be cut in half--sheesh--)
Talk about a small world, one of the publishers was raised in the same small Georgia town that I spent 9 years growing up in. (too tired to fix grammer or spelling)
All in all, It was great and I recommend a large conference to every writer at least once. I learned a lot. Not about writing, but about conferences.
Good writing to all and good night.
Rosemary
Christi
Sun Mar 19 19:36:54 PST 2000
Thanks! You, like Jerry, are sweet.
Where are you going and how long will you be gone? You would deprive us of Jon's and Pussy's presence, as well? I wish you all a safe journey and a quick return, but I can't say which of you I will miss the most. :(
Sasquatch,
You never answered my question. You and me with a camera-- You name the time and place. Bunny ears would surely be involved. Sounds like fun doesn't it? I am quite good at grooming, and would be happy to de-bug you for services rendered.
Think about it,
Christi
Sasquatch
yeti@overshoe.net
Sun Mar 19 17:36:56 PST 2000
No, Howard, that was not my little sister that you dated. I am certain about that. She would have remembered you I am sure, and she does not. Perhaps it was really Ghan-beri-ghan's sister instead. I am surprised you remember him, and I wonder if anyone else here does?
To the one called Litter, I hope you do not live up to your name when walking through my forest. I really hate cleaning up after you humans. Ha ha ha. I am only joking with your name. I am learning to make fun with words and see how they are being used. And what is anfscd and larch?
Arik I liked your sentence also. It was a nice play of words as I would like to use. Do not regard the small one Jon. He is a newcomer in this being and his kind has much to learn . Then perhaps he will be able to understand what we old ones know. We have been here since long before his kind came. Did you know that they came from a place far away in the sky? The ones who brought them here from beyond the tiny lights did so because they were so tired of their insolence. And they thought that we could put up with them. I will be happy when they return for them. Although some of them have shown an improvement and I will miss them.
Bears too.
(c) sasquatch how do you make that little mark?
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sun Mar 19 17:03:02 PST 2000
AMERICO -- Please don't stay away long!
howard
Teekay
Sun Mar 19 16:35:20 PST 2000
I was just reading the posts and having a good old giggle when somebody walked past the office and told me to stop laughing at the computer screen as it might look like I was having a good time and as I was at work that wasn't allowed.
RACHEL: I'm so glad your talking to me again, and I don't hate you coz you can't spell, I hate you because.. ha ha ha only joking, just like last time. Please don't not speak to me now, I hate it when you don't speak to me. Actually I hated myself for a while for making you sad. I didn't mean to huuuurrrt youuuuu, I'm sooorrry that I maaade you cryyyyy, I didn't mean toooo hurrrtt youuuu, I reallly diiiidn't tryyyyy.
HOWARD: I agree totally with what you said about having the courage of your convictions. "To thine ownself be true and it must follow as the night the day, thou shalt not then be false to any man" That was by Bill Wag a Dagger, and he is not in the running for the best or worst quote of the day as he is dead.
RACHEL: I think you may have given me the evil eye. I am making an unusual amount of spelling errors lately.
JERRY: That is a fascinating story, but have you heard the doppleganger legend? If you have not then it is probably best.
HOWARD: again: You have piqued my curiosity too about ' the anything box' I am off to search for a copy at the library. Perhaps it can be downloaded from the site JERRY found about out of print books.
HEATHER: Thanks. Where have you been? I have missed you.
I'm sorry to hear that your cat is feeling a little down.
CHRISTI: I thought a mint julep was a lolly DUH! That's why I said 'suck on a mint julep'.
ALLIEN: Too right! Where would Ricki Lake and co. be without adultery??? "And for todays show we're going to talk about husbands who leave the toilet seat up." ooooooohh
Where is poor MARTIN not from Sweden??? Did he get fired or did JON not make him welcome. MARTIN if your there JON is a cat, they don't even have the vote. You are of course welcome. If however you are sacked...weeell we can't really blame that on JON.
I have finished my final edit for the competition and I feel very happy with my efforts. I don't know if that is because I have spent so much time with it and we have developed a bond or because it is good. Never the less it is finished.
I have begun my shortie of the notebookers I know and if you have any qualms about being in my shortie, please let me know here and soon. Your failure to respond will be taken as assent. I shall warn you now. Some times you may not like what you read. I am going to change all the names so you shall have to pick who you think you are. Also I am only writing about those whom I feel I know enough of to portray in a story.
I could make enemies doing this couldn't I??? Maybe it's a bad idea. Maybe it's brilliant. Who knows?
Ta Ta I'm of to the library.
Americo
agsousa@esoterica.pt
Sun Mar 19 16:26:26 PST 2000
Spring is here!
I must go for a while.This is my last post to you. But I'll come back, I hope. And so will Jon and Pussy.
Goodbye, everybody! It was a pleasure being with you.
Take care!
PS. And keep "Strawberries and a Moon" in shape.
Allein
allein_anderson@hotmail.com
http://alleinanderson.8m.com
Sun Mar 19 14:45:43 PST 2000
Allein
Americo
agsousa@esoterica.pt
Sun Mar 19 11:42:59 PST 2000
That's very kind of you. I would like to read only the short-story you mentioned, not the whole collection. I thought that if it were not too long perhaps you could type it and send it by e-mail. But that's likely too much trouble. Forget it. Thanks all the same and again.
Pussy
Sun Mar 19 11:25:57 PST 2000
Pussy
Sun Mar 19 11:25:13 PST 2000
@Pussy
A* only said that the best novels having adultery as theme have been written by men, and that it is not probably that the trend changes. Don't you, girls, know how to read?
BTW. I suspect that A* stands for adultery!
Jon
Sun Mar 19 11:18:59 PST 2000
@Jon, 2000
PS. Arik, I've been thinking of you all night and all day, mainly in the morning, after my coffee, cigarettes and Martini.
PSS.Arik, when will you announce today's best sentence? Not that I deserve to win, oh, no, I'm too humble for that. (Almost crying).
Heather, what do you think the name Arik means? For me it means nice, generous, everything! (Bright smile)
HOW ABOUT A NICE CUP OF COFFEE?
@Jon, 2000
Cassandra
Sun Mar 19 11:04:57 PST 2000
I'm back from the sunny south to stir up my usual trouble in the notebook. A few topics in here have sparked a bit of fight in me... but I'll leave it to one for today. :)
Americo-
We'll never reach their standards will we? Considering that women weren't allowed to write except seldomly under a man's name that's quite a convenent arguement.
Once the score is even and women finally take their place on the same socio-economic level as men and have a chance to play "catch up" We shall see who won't reach who's standards.
And allow me to remind you, if it weren't the cruel nature of men (of the past) to push them down in the first place, you wouldn't be able to make any such point. Thank your god you were born into the sex that dominated and repressed. You would not be so cocky if you weren't.
And as far as standards are concerned. I prefer to set my own, thank you very much. :)
later gators
Cassandra
Howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sun Mar 19 10:59:17 PST 2000
Heather -- There are several names attributed to Jesus. The name "Jesus" (same as Yeshua or Joshua) literally means "Jehova Saves." He is also called "Emmanuel (Immanuel) meaning "God with us." There's a very interesting study just on the names -- both of people and places -- from which one can derive some rather deep and provocative understanding.
All -- If you have access to James Kilpatrick's column, by all means read today's essay on words and cadence. It's excellent, and outlines some of the things we strive for. It shows why we're successful at times, and why at times we fail to come up with that "killer sentence."
howard
Heather
Sun Mar 19 10:18:46 PST 2000
Hello, feinds and neighbours. I mean friends.
Yes, Teekay; fine-weathered was intentional - and I LOVED it when you said LAWN-gerie!
I laughed until my cat turned blue.
Let's just say that Arik and Americo get the prize for both the most stupid and most cunning sentences of the day. But wasn't that yesterday? Congratulations, you two. Kiss and get it over with.
Howard, I have interpreted from Hebrew that God's (of the Bible) true name is (in English): 'I Am That I Am'. And Christ is 'I AM'. Go to Tibet and Persia, look for the singing stone tablets and let them sing to you the truths so divine they are no less absolute than God Him/Herself. I can't say Itself, for that's not correct, but my husband said that He is designated as a He because it was a patriarchal society at the time the Bible was written. God is neither Male nor Female, God is above having a sexual title, hence 'I Am That I Am', not 'I Am He That Is', or something along that vein.
Not to argue your wonderful points (or horns - ha ha) I just thought I'd add a few cents for the centences.
(scentient?)
Clair-scentient. Meaning one can decipher things with the senses other than eyes. Sixth, Seventh, eleventh, however many senses we are endowed with. Who can count them when they are such curious phantoms?
Ahh, I wander through a field of daisies, only to find they have thorns, too.
Yellow centres egg-yolk and butter-smelling. Green thorned priestesses, nodding to the giant folk. Welcome to the briar, step lightly.
Americo, did you say that women cannot reach men's standards? Perhaps you meant cannot reach down? I think that's what it was to be. Women (at least I do) find adultery a subject not for fiction, simply because our writing would be best suited then, to Playboy. It is every man's fantasy to commit it. Not every woman's.
Good day, all, and I tip my hat to you!
Heather
Americo
Sun Mar 19 08:06:10 PST 2000
I saw your story in SM**. Well done. There is plenty of food and there is even a dog. (Hope Jon does not object at dogs in SM**). And there are prayers before the meal. All the prerequisites for a good well-behaved American family with paradise guaranteed.
Keep on publishing, darling!
Americo
Sun Mar 19 05:37:50 PST 2000
I would like to read a short-story you recommended yesterday, by Zena Henderson. It seems to deal with a topic I'm very intersted in since S*: dream and its reality, its laws, its time, its space. You say it is out of print. Any chance you can send me a copy or something?
Arik,
Jon asked me if I could influence you in any way. He is dying to get a prize for one of his sentences. I told him that the prize is only for immortal sentences, such as my own "Anyone for a nice cup of tea?" But he threatened to cry... I cannot see anyone suffering, can you? He also said that, as a saint, he can do you a lot of good to your private life, mainly if you would like to win the lottery. As a saint, he has some influence in heaven, you know. I know that you are incorruptible, but how about his sentence (inspired in mine, I'm afraid): "How about a nice cup of coffee?" He has already registered, just in case.
PS. I mean the prize for the best sentence and not the prize for the most stupid one...
Litter
Sun Mar 19 04:15:57 PST 2000
Adultery - as with Howard, and on a personal level, it is not an option. As a writing device it is one of the 'biggies' that drive many a good novel/story. It is not easy to deny an anthropo-biological imperative but the rewards for doing so can be magnificent. You will find that true monogamous love does not cause the chaos that 'sin' or antisocial behaviour does. Of course, as far as writing is concerned, we strive for tension and many of the negative aspects of life and society that we wish to avoid in our personal lives… but then again there is 'writing from experience'…
Arik - keep your sentances/sentences/sentinces/sentonces/sentunces coming. If English is not your first language then you are doing OK. "Every day will be a new sentence." - I just lurve the double meaning…
Teakey - point taken!
Rowhad - nicely said - saved me a lot of writing. I only had to use two words to salve my own indignation :o) ANFSCD - Number 5, The Larch.
Ariel - Perhaps it was my mind? However, for you indulgence I thank you from the heart of my bottom. ;o) (should that have been 'from the bottom of my heart?')
"The simple, post on the best matters" © LitterAli
Bye y'all
Litter
Jack Beslanwitch
jack@forwriters.com
Sun Mar 19 02:37:35 PST 2000
Rachel
Sun Mar 19 01:22:27 PST 2000
P Cushing - Did you make it out? Where are you? Still heldup@easterneurope.com? Do you need help! I'll save you!!!!!!!
Americo - Nice sentence! You won, you won, you won. Or I guess Pussy won. Na, na, Americo (smiles and a hug).
Adultery - How do I feel about adultery? What do I think about adultery? I doubt you really want to know (soft smiles).
For me, I would be more interested in if the person who engaged in adultery was in love. If not, why did they do it. I think there would need to be a reason. I would want to know what that was.
If it is for love. How could I condem that? I think that in love there is beauty.
I am not interested in condeming a person. If their heart is not true to what they are doing a person will damn themsevles with much more success than any extenral force ever could.
The very act of adultery bring with it a heavy price. Few would be able to get past their own conventions. Be able to allow themselves to feel the joy of the love.
I have been thinking about this since I first saw the post. I have many different views. If I had left is post another day to write. I would have done it differently. For now I guess this will have to do.
I hope this post makes sense. It is late and I'm tired. Went out last night for Indian food. Didn't get to bed till 1am or so. Up at 7am this morning. Then out again late tonight. Hockey game (our team won 6 - 1) YES, YES, YES!!!!! After the game off to friends house visit, visit (smile, laugh). Home, visit the sitter, take her home and now to bed.
Teekay - My spelns awfu, I no it. Please don't hat me fo dis (cheeky grins).
Take care all
Rachel
Katarina
Sat Mar 18 22:58:03 PST 2000
I have a topic, if anyone cares to elaborate about their own eperiences....
"What is the worst thing that has ever happened to you?"
Tres bien dreams et vous
Kat
Sat Mar 18 22:54:36 PST 2000
Christi
Sat Mar 18 22:29:38 PST 2000
Thanks! You're sweet.
Hey, having a doppleganger is very beneficial, no? I didn't realize his first name was also Jerry; I just thought your last names matched. It would be wonderful if you became life-long friends.
You lucky duck, I always wanted a twin.
Goodnight, and nice dreams to all.
Arik
nesis@actcom.co.il
Sat Mar 18 22:21:19 PST 2000
I wish a good day to all of you :-)
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Sat Mar 18 21:33:08 PST 2000
Christi
Sat Mar 18 20:59:25 PST 2000
Sing it from the rooftops, my friends. I'm so tired of having to live up to the politically correct standard, while some of the most offensive things ever are happening right in front of our eyes. Everyone has a voice, if only they would use it.
Howard, I'm really interested in "The Anything Box." I've been working on a short story about lucid dreaming for over a year now (so I guess I really haven't been working on it), and am stuck. I love to read anything about dreams and will be actively searching for this book.
Jerry,
Ditto, what Howard said. That's really neat! Does your twin write as well?
Christi
Sat Mar 18 20:42:28 PST 2000
Teekay, my kind, adorable, new friend. How you make me blush. I thank you to the moon and back for your support. I was going to tell Americo, "Hey, I posted my story!", but then I thought everyone would think that I wanted them to read it (which I kind of do), and then I thought what if they hate it (which I hope they don't), so I chickened out. Thanks for pushing me out of the closet you nut!
A*, Since I contributed to SM am I promoted to Master Notebooker? I've got to go now. Too nervous to write. Think I'll freshen up my mint julep.
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 20:18:54 PST 2000
And on religion -- I'm not seeking to preach, nor to convert anyone. That's neither my intent nor my calling. It's only that in today's society I am expected to keep my beliefs to myself lest I offend anyone, while those who believe anything and everything else are allowed to say whatever they like, wherever they want. I've come to the decision that it's a part of me (to me it's the most important part) so why should I hide it? That's all.
ANFSCD (Monty Python fans wil recognise that) -- I mentioned a while ago a story that was written from the viewpoint of a character *inside* a nightmare, observing the person who was *having* the nightmare. It was not the Rambo-esque "I'm your worst nightmare" testosterone overload, but it was a kind of confusion and fear in itself. It suggested a connection between realities, that might be interesting to explore. I would again encourage anyone who haunts used book stores to check for a copy of "The Anything Box" (or anything else) by Zenna Henderson.
howard
Jerry A.G. Ericsson
jerrag@sd.cybernex.net
Sat Mar 18 19:13:41 PST 2000
Religion – A wonderful topic for conversation, it can inflame the conversation, but of course the more we preach our own version, the more those whom we are trying to convert reject our claims. It fits in with such important topics as gun control (proper site alignment and controled breathing right?) and politics.
Jon – Asking about the undies worn by our lovely lady notebookers, a question comes to mind, why would a cat care?
Keep the peace
Jerry
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 19:03:36 PST 2000
Arik -- I completely agree with Americo that "Every day is a new sentence" is the very best sentence we've heard yet. And if you consider the possible meanings of the word 'sentence' it becomes even more intriguing.
But "Anyone for a nice cup of tea?" also has its merits.
hwoard
Jon
On the prize Arik gave to A*
Sat Mar 18 18:24:25 PST 2000
my esteemed and admired friend,
I was informed this evening that you granted A* the prize for the "best sentence of the day" (A* told me "of the month".) I will make no comments on your decision, not because I admire his ridiculous sentence, but because I have the utmost respect if not for this choice, at least for your admirable capacity for choosing. For me, my friend, your decisions are orders, and I respect and admire them, even in the case of A*s insignificant sentence. Even if posterity will laugh at such an idiotic sentence, as it will certainly do, I will always respect and admire your extraordinary generosity, which managed to see beauty where, to a more critical eye such as mine, there is nothing.*
Arik,
after such a declaration of admiration for your talent and generosity, I'd like to ask you to have a look at my posts. But I do not dare asking. My posts are too modest and I could never aspire at writing a sentence that could please you. No, I will not ask. Even because you'd likely think that, whenever I'll praise your high qualities, I will be doing it just to get the prize. I would never do that. I'll sing your extraordinary intelligence, your good looks, your generosity, your milk and vodka cocktails, your everything, but only because I recognize that you are the best man in the world. No, I will not ask you to read my posts. I would never do that. Thank you very much, Arik. And --
How about a nice cup of coffee?
* The sentence was "Anyone for a nice cup of tea?" Ludicrous sentence by A* but sound judgement by our own Arik.
Americo
agsousa@esoterica.pt
Sat Mar 18 18:22:00 PST 2000
A strong hug to you,
from your most pagan friend, but friend,
Americo
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 16:58:55 PST 2000
Remember - you started this…
I am not *associating* Jesus Christ with the God of the bible. I am believing that he *is* the God of the bible.
The God who called Himself "that I Am" is the same God who created all that is. He is that perfection that cannot tolerate any imperfection in His presence. His creation became marred through imperfection (sin) and He could no longer commune with it as He once did. The price tag that came along with that imperfection was (and still is) what we know as death - or separation from Him.
It does not matter what specific sin - adultery, murder (hatred is the same as murder in His eyes), lying, coveting, sloth - all are various forms of sin, and all equally intolerable to Him. It is we who attribute degrees to sin, and affix special punishments to our own particular "hot-buttons." He very simply states that sin is "falling short of His perfection," and again very simply states that "the wages of that falling short is death."
But He loves us - so much so that He chose to pay that price Himself. But in order to do that He had to become one of us.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Then that Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and stated that "I and the Father are One." He did that in order to take the penalty in our place, to satisfy the perfect requirement of a perfect God for a perfect sacrifice.
He told the woman at the well that "If you knew (understood) who I am, you would plead with me for the water of life that I have to offer." And he offered that freely, because He is as you say "full of humanity and understanding" yet also He is deity.
When the men who would test Him brought the woman caught in the act of adultery he did not pass it off as an act of commerce, neither did He condemn her. He simply forgave her (as He had authority to do) and then told her to "Go, and sin no more."
You say that we commit a gross blunder in that we "mix up [the] Old Testament with [the] New Testament. "We" did not do that. God did that, in that Jesus is pictured plainly throughout the O.T. His work of atonement is prophecied or portrayed everywhere.
C.S. Lewis said that Jesus is either "…liar, lunatic, or Lord." Those are the only three possibilities available, and one of them is the correct one.
I believe that the evidence proves that He is Lord.
howard
Teekay
Sat Mar 18 16:38:58 PST 2000
Teekay.
Sat Mar 18 16:36:42 PST 2000
Sat Mar 18 16:34:05 PST 2000
ARIK : 'every day will be a new sentence' really is true genius. Just think how approporiate that is to all of us here.
CHRISTI: You must let all the notebookers know when you post a story in the workbook or it could be a week before anybody reads it and then you think everybody hates it because nobody said anything about it. I didn't hate it, I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it and I LAUGHED and LAUGHED. Well done.
AMERICO et al: About adultery hmmmm. Perhaps adultery is best kept to in the imagination. It's clean, fuss free, there's no need to shave thelegs before hand. It's convenient, No risk of diseases and one can choose whoever they like. One can have it over tea and scones or in a hammock while sucking on juleps.
I think maybe a lot of women may not right about adultery because it is BOOOORRRRRIIIING!! I personally would much prefer to read about other stuff. REMEMBER EVERYONE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
CHRISTI: What a wonderful Saturday you seem to be having. Hammocks and mint juleps.
Well toodle loo I'm off to really finish off this story, the concept of time is fast ticking by.
Have a Wonderful day.
Americo
Sat Mar 18 15:42:20 PST 2000
You are very kind, but your decision about the best and the most stupid sentence is not fair. I insist that your sentence "Everyday is a new sentence" is a sentence of genius (I'm not kidding!) How can a sentence of genius be the most stupid sentence of the day? No way!
As for my sentence, "Anyone for a nice cup of tea?", that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life. To begin with it was not written by me but by Pussy, secondly, I don't even know how to make tea, thirdly, I hate tea (except Earl Grey); tenthly, oh, no, Arik, I cannot accept. But you are too kind and secretly I'm a little bit sort of, kind of... should I say... yes, proud. Only a little modest bit... I'M PROUD! I WON!
Arik
Nesis@actcom.co.il
Sat Mar 18 13:19:07 PST 2000
The most stupid santance is:
"Everyday will be a new sentence". (by me :-()
The most smart santance is by Americo:
"Anyone for a cup of tea?"
I like it... well, this is it for doday... now I am going to mak myself a nice cup of tea :-))
Americo
agsousa@esoterica.pt
Sat Mar 18 13:08:11 PST 2000
Christ should not be associated with the God of the Bible. Christ is a modern figure, full of humanity and understanding. The God of the Bible is an obsolete concept, who ruled through fear and thunder as it befitted the primitive society of the time the Bible was written. It's a gross blunder of some Christian persuasions to mix up Old Testament with New Testament, and give us a Christ who is the opposite of what He really was.
How could an intelligent, humane, kind and loving figure condemn adultery (or any sin for that matter) so harshly? Even in thoughts, you said... Not even the Roman Pope is so severe anymore! What kind of woman was sweet Magdalen? What was the commonest practice of the girls of His society to earn a living if not prostitution with Roman soldiers? How could Christ be so harsh to a large percentage of the women around Him (and so damn harmful to the economy of Galilee)? The God of the Bible was harsh and cruel, but Christ was kind . It's true that he was a bit temperamental-- see what he did to the guys who were selling goods in the temple and the way he sometimes addressed the crowds and even his disciples. But broadly speaking he was not a man to condemn anyone. Least of all adultery, the former job of his dear Magdalen and possible companion. (For this very last topic, read Saramago's "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ").
Some people who think they are doing good sometimes give a very negative idea of the Person whom they should teach to love. And when they quote the Books to prove their point, so much the worse: they make well-intentioned people also hate the Books. That's a bad service to Christ.
Be as it may, adultery is a serious topic, and anyone interested in literature should discuss it freely and without any prejudices.
Ariel
Sat Mar 18 12:23:18 PST 2000
Americo
agsousa@esoterica.pt
Sat Mar 18 11:48:11 PST 2000
The History of Literature shows that women have never written any great novel about adultery. I remember Ulysses (Joyce), Madame Bovary (Flaubert), Lady Chatterley's Lover (D.H. Lawrence), Le Rouge et le Noir (Stendhal)... just to mention books any writer should know by heart. The authors are all men, though the heroines are mostly women.
I honestly think that women have everything to be great writers: they are dreamers, they deal with the little everyday things, they have that special brand of music in their fingers without which no one can be a writer. They also know much more about sex than men. And they enjoy sex much better. Rightly and fairly so: they not only know about sex but also about its consequences, which makes sex for them a much profounder experience than for a man.
Yet, the best fiction about sex — and therefore about adultery — has been written by men. How to explain this? Probably for socio-psychological reasons. Women have been conditioned to consider sex a taboo matter (that's very convenient for men). They make it (and usually very well) but they will write about something else: love as a spiritual experience, the life of king Arthur and his knights (while virgins), the best way to cook peaches. Adultery is not their business.
How can a human being be such a slave of conventions, moreover imposed by their archetype rivals -- men? How can a writer bear this unnatural torture of not being allowed to speak, sometimes not even to think?
Women in this forum, take off your subliminal prejudices and write as freely as men!
You'l find that you will never reach their standards...
"The Best Posts on Simple Matters"
© AGS, 2000.
Christi
Sat Mar 18 11:39:04 PST 2000
I think everyone has been attracted to someone other than their spouse at some time or another, but I can't even think about what it would be like without my husband around. I appreciate him too much to even ponder cheating on him. Now that my marriage has matured I know that I have the best of all possible worlds right here at home.
Sorry, that is my boring but honest answer.
Christi
Sat Mar 18 11:25:57 PST 2000
I am soo ashamed. You did my homework for me! Thank you for the incredibly detailed instructions, and for cluing us in on the contest.
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 11:15:58 PST 2000
I found out long ago that if you take care of your own lawn, you have no need for the grass on the other side of the fence...
howard
Americo
Sat Mar 18 10:59:09 PST 2000
I made a delicious cake. Cherries and sugar with a bit of lemon, to make it green of jealousy, the whole constituting a pretty face, my face. I like it when my guests eat my lips and nose, and laugh when they kiss my eyes.
Tonigh we could talk about adultery, as there will be no one around. I like adultery. Is there any one here who has never commited adultery? Not even in thoughts? Impossible. Adultery is very important in literature. See for instance Madame Bovary. Any writer must commit adultery at least once every month. That's my favorite sport.
Howard, how many times have you commited adultery? (With University colleagues it does not count).
This post was written by Pussy but will be signed by A*. Any person who became fret because of the topic please close his/her (their in case it's a dragon with many heads) eyes.
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 10:38:29 PST 2000
On the Amazon home page, do a search on BOOKS and SHORT STORY -- then scroll down the left side of the screen to see PEN AMAZON SHORT STORY AWARDS. Click on that and you will find:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/browse/-/books/283156/102-1471667-5916033
Deadline is 3/24.
howard
Christi
Sat Mar 18 09:51:30 PST 2000
I went to Amazon, but couldn't find anything about a short story contest. Maybe the contest is already over. If so, shucky and darn.
Hello everybodeeee. Happy Saturday to you all. Hope your day is lazy, and filled with hammock snoozes and mint juleps.
Christi
howard
htuckey@stny.rr.com
Sat Mar 18 06:43:32 PST 2000
So what's been happening while I've been gone?
Welcome Christi,Trudy,Arik, Martin, et al. (Al is a lurker, if you didn't know).
I have recently been suffering from a rare malady -- a combination of deja-vu and amnesia. I kept having the feeling that I'd forgotten this before.
Welcome also to Sasquatch! I have long wanted to meet you, or your cousin the Yeti. Now that you've described your diet I have the feeling that we've almost met in the woods before. And did I ever have a blind date with your sister? Perhaps I'm confusing her with Ghan-beri-ghan's sister (the ugly one) that I met at a sock hop in 1956. At any rate, welcome.
I have just reread (several times) a short story by Zenna Henderson, called "Walking Aunt Daid." If you ever get a chance to read it, by all means do so. It's an account of a dream -- from *inside* the dream. Think about it -- what do the characters in your dreams feel? How do they feel about *you*? Are you really their subconscious imaginings, instead of the other way 'round as we like to believe?
Anyway, "Walking Aunt Daid" is in the collection titled "The Anything Box," which is long out of print, but definitely worth looking for.
Has anyone seen the Amazon home page lately? They're running a short story contest (for U.S. and Canada only) that carries a $10,000 first prize. I entered, and the deadline is next week, I think. Might be worth a look.
Oh, and time? Time is only what God invented to keep everything from happening at once!
Gotta go -- I sense a lurker, and Aunt Alice is calling. She needs help with her laundry. All that underwear is heavy to hang on the line.
howard
Jon
Sat Mar 18 06:25:26 PST 2000
Wie kannst du J